"The animal studies are not relevant for evaluating scar integrity in subsequent labor because labor in 4-footed mammals is not as strenuous as it is in humans, who are upright. "
Of course they are relevant. The only way that scar integrity and tensile strength of the incision can actually be measured is in an animal model. It would be unethical to biopsy uterine scars in human beings.
"It remains a shocking failure to me that in the 25 years in which VBAC has been an issue, obs have not investigated what surgical techniques maximize safety in subsequent pregnancies in women delivered by cesarean."
I just showed you studies about single vs. double layer closure. They are not the only studies of uterine scar integrity. There are studies comparing types of uterine incisions (classical vs. transverse) and there are studies investigating the results of using different suturing materials. You may not be familiar with the studies about suturing materials because many were done by infertility specialists. They have a very keen interest in minimizing any tissue reaction in surgery on the tubes or the uterus (as in the case of repair of uterine developmental defects). If you like, I can compile a list for you. The point is, though, that those studies exist and it is wrong to suggest that no one has looked into the effects of incision type, closure type and suture material on uterine scars. All three have been investigated extensively.
By the way, as regards the previous topic we discussed, the MacDorman study, I'd like to draw your attention to the fact that one of the investigators has publically acknowledged the flaws in the study that you claimed either did not exist or were not relevant. In an
interview with Medscape, Declerq, one of the principal investigators said the following:
Medscape: What are the limitations of your study?
Dr. Declerq: There are several limits.
Most notably these births we have identified cannot be termed "patient choice" cesareans since there is no indication on the birth certificate concerning mother's choice or intention. Also there is the possibility that some of the cesareans were for medical reasons not covered by the birth certificate items or that those completing the forms simply failed to complete them correctly. (my emphasis)
By: ATuteur