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Posted By 70745 on 7/1/2008 6:47:32 AM
Subject: RE: The OB disinformation campaign
Message: The comments are back! But they haven't been touched since they were taken off. Maybe they're filtering the IPs allowed to comment? Anyway, so that her exact words are recorded someplace that they WONT be deleted, I wanted to cut and paste some things.

Here is her CV, cut and pasted directly from her post:

"Harvard College where I received my degree in biochemistry in 1979.

BU School of Medicine, where I got my MD 1984.

Boston's Beth Israel Hospital, intership and residency, 1984-88.

Boston' Beth Israel Hospital, practicing obstetrician.

Brigham and Women's Hospital, practicing obstetrician.

Harvard Medical School, Clinical Instructior in Obstetrics."

NOTE: There are no dates following her residency. She could have been practicing medicine for six months for all we know. What I do know is that she did "retire" from medicine because of her children, so she says. Cut and pasted again:

"Henci Goer has no license to practice medicine or midwifery and never did, but that's no problem. Ina May Gaskin practiced for years without a license and without training of any kind, and that's wonderful. Yet you claim to be deeply concerned that I voluntarily allowed my license to lapse after I retired to stay home with my children."

As far as I understand it, neither Henci nor Ina May have ever overstated their own credentials in an effort to make money giving advice.

I've never heard of a licensed doctor allowing their license to expire like that. Why wouldn't you keep your license active, even if you weren't working, just so that when you decide to work again its easier to just jump right in? I feel like there's got to be more to that then she's letting on.

I do find it amusing that she spends so much time blasting anyone on our side of the fence, and yet she doesn't come to this forum to throw in her two cents. Her opinion is that Henci would never make any statements in favor of home birth to OBs, but it seems to me that its quite the opposite. If she feels so strongly, why wont she come on our turf and discuss it here? And why does she spend so much energy demanding that Henci prove herself when in fact, Amy should be the one doing the explaining?

Not that I'm trying to encourage an all out battle in this forum, mind you.... It just annoys me when people are so contradictory. She screams and yells for studies and credentials, saying that we'd be too afraid to defend ourselves to the medical world, yet she doesn't cite studies thoroughly at all, she wont tell us exactly how long she actually practiced medicine, and she wont come on our turf to defend herself here.

I thought she was simply disillusioned by the medical model and I wasn't even going to say anything until she called Grantly Dick-Read a racist. I do wish I could have been a fly on the wall when she "chose" to stop working. I'd love to know the real reason. And I'd love to know how long she was actually working.

What I find most horrifying is that she charges for advice on her website. For $4.95 you can get:

"Premium response: Chance of pregnancy - This is a personal e-mail response detailing the chance of pregnancy in your specific situation.

This premium response applies ONLY to asking about the chances of pregnancy. No other questions about pregnancy or women's health will be answered through this service."

And for $14.95 you can get:

"Premium response: Questions about women's health - This is a personal e-mail response including a detailed answer to any question about women's health."

And, of course, she has her disclaimer: "Disclaimer: Keep in mind that this is not medical advice and is not a substitute for medical advice. Only a doctor who has examined you and is familiar with your medical records can give you medical advice."

That disclaimer is how she gets away with it. Ladies, save yourself the time. Spend the extra dollar and buy a pregnancy test. If you don't have insurance, find a clinic and talk to a REAL doctor.

And Amy, if you happen to have the courage to voice up HERE, you wont be worth responding to if you can't tell us EXACTLY how long you practiced medicine with an actual license to do so. Anyone who went to school 20 years ago can find a list of studies and quote them on a website. That doesn't make you a doctor.
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