In the same year the Independent midwives had 97% successful HBAC rate which is a 3% repeat c/s rate.  Our stats are submitted and reproduced in the same book, however they do not give us the courtesy of breaking our our stats.  So apart from the extra babies that show up you can't tell VBAC or twins or breech.   I obviously know what my own figures are.  In this state Obs don't have to individually publish their stats only the overall hospital stats are shown.  Clarity is a two way street.

Hope that helps clear up what I meant.

Mary Cronk as well known British midwife has done lots of work on pulse and VBAC and has developed a set of guidelines for the Independent midwives there.  They are available on her site to look at and on homebirth.org.uk.

Henci I wonder if you could elaborate on who you wouldn't feel was suitable for VBAC? 

Also with excess pain being an indicator of ruptured uterus I would really think that an epidural is contraindicated just on a common sense factor.  I trained in 1988 in the UK.  one rare epidural is all we could cope with and a VBAC ( we only had a 9% section rate as did the country at the time so they weren't so common) was definitely not seen as a candidate for any kind of intervention whatsoever.  We only had 1 ctg machine so that wasn't an option either!!